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The following address is a speech given by the Rt. Hon.
J. Enoch Powell, MP, to a meeting of the Stretford Young
Conservatives at the Civic Theatre, Stretford, Manchester
at 8pm, Friday, 21 January 1977.
Throughout the last twenty years, locally at first, then
nationally, one political subject has been different from
all the rest in the persistence with which it has endured
and the profound and absorbing preoccupation which it has
increasingly held for the public. This is all the more remarkable
because of the sedulous determination with which this subject
has been kept, as far as possible, out of parliamentary
debate, and the use which has been made of every devicefrom
legal penalty to trade union proscriptionto prevent
the open discussion and ventilation of it. No social or
political penalty, no threat of private ostracism or public
violence, has been spared against those who have nevertheless
continued to describe what hundreds of thousands of their
fellow citizens daily saw and experienced and to voice the
fears for the future by which those fellow citizens were
haunted. The efforts that were made during the 1930s to
silence, ridicule, or denounce those who warned of the coming
war with the fascist dictatorships and who called for the
peril to be recognized and met before too late, provide
but a pale and imperfect precedent.
In all this suppression more than one powerful motive can
be seen at work. On the one hand there is the primitive
but widespread superstition that if danger is not mentioned,
it will go away, or even that it is created by being identified
and can therefore be destroyed again by being left in silence.
Akin to this is the natural resentment of ordinary people,
but especially of politicians, at being forced to face an
appalling prospect with no readily procurable happy ending.
The custom of killing messengers who bring bad news is not
confined to the kings and tyrants of antiquity or of fiction.
On the other hand there are at work the dark motives of
those who desire the catastrophic outcome which they foresee.
All round the world in various forms the same formula for
rending societies apart is being prepared and applied, by
ignorance or design, and there are those who are determined
to see to it that Britain shall no longer be able to escape.
I marvel sometimes that people should be so innocently blind
to this nihilism.
One of the ordinary weapons for the suppression of free
speech and of frank expression of opinion is to allege that
those who warn of a danger, be they right or wrong, actually
desire that danger; that those who warn of war desire war;
that those who warn of the materials of hatred and conflict
being heaped up desire to see hatred and conflict come about.
This is why Churchill was denounced as a warmonger. Because
he did not fear to envisage and express the possibility
and even probability of war, he could be accused of wanting
it.
The fallacy is obvious; for the interest of those who desire
calamity would obviously lie in keeping silent till it comes,
instead of crying out for means and measures to avert it.
But the fallacy is nonetheless dangerous for that.
Till now, however, there has been one essential bulwark
against suppression of free speech and of open debate upon
the nature and reality of the public danger to which I refer
and upon the means to cope with it. That has been the necessity
for those who aimed at suppression to prove evil intent
on the part of their prospective victims. That condition
was of vital importance; for it is inherently unlikely that
any subject of public anxiety or apprehension can be discussed
or debated without touching upon strong feelings, fears,
antagonisms, emotionsindeed, that very probability
is proportionate to the importance of the subject. If expression
of opinion likely to have that effect is rendered criminal
per se, irrespective of the intention of the speaker, then
all free and open public discussion is rendered impossible,
to the manifest endangering of the public interest; for
the public interest depends upon the preservation of free
speech.
It ought to be understood that, in the intention of the
legal advisers of the Crown, this bulwark is now to be swept
away. That was made clear by a recent exchange of published
letters between the attorney general and myself regarding
the effect of section 70 of the Race Relations Act, 1976.
For a criminal offense under that section to be committed
two conditions must be fulfilled. Speech or writing must
be threatening, abusive or insulting; and it
must also be speech or writing by which having regard
to all the circumstances, hatred is likely to be stirred
up against any racial group in Great Britain.
Now, I have never in a political speech used language which
to my knowledge was in any natural sense of the words threatening,
abusive or insulting. To the contrary, I have always
regarded such language as self-defeating in public debate.
However, the principal law officer of the Crown has asserted
that in his view it was insulting to quote, as I did in
a speech at Croydon last October, the expression alien
wedge, which Viscount Radcliffe in a public address
had applied to New Commonwealth immigrants, or to express
the opinion that, in the foreseeable numbers and circumstances,
the New Commonwealth immigrant and immigrant-descended population
in our cities is not likely to be able to live and work
in harmony with the rest of the population.
The attorney general has further asserted that in his view
race hatred against colored members of our community was
likely to be stirred up by what I said. He added that he
did not believe a court would find that this was my intention.
However, when section 70 of the new Act comes into force,
intention will become irrelevant. Thus it is clear that
the attorney general believes the uttering or publishing
of such speech or writing will thereafter be criminal, and
that as attorney general he would expect to give his consent
to prosecution of the speaker and of the media which report
the speech.
The interpretation, which is given for this purpose to
the notions of insulting and stirring
up hatred, is radically perverse and one-sided, and
it goes to the root of the misconceptions which have hindered
rational discussion and handling of this subject from the
beginning. Let me illustrate them as follows. In his Christmas
day sermon the Archbishop of Canterbury said this: We
can view the man with a colored face as a threat
.
But we can think of it very differently. That man with a
different skin color from mine could be an enrichment to
my life and that of my neighbors. Now, I am certain
that nothing was further from His Graces intention
than to be insulting to the New Commonwealth immigrant and
immigrant-descended population and were exactly the sort
of words which stir up intense hatred.
I do not see how it can be other than deeply insulting
to describe a Jew as that man with a different shaped nose
from mine, or a Zambian as that man with a different sort
of hair from mine, or a Chinese as that man with narrower
eyes and a yellower pigment than mine. To reduce all the
deep-seated differences between the various nations, societies,
and tribes of mankind to some external physical attribute
in this way is to commit the grossest indignity and disrespect
to human nature itself. It is a literally inhuman point
of view. What is worse, it is insufferable arrogance to
suppose that an Iranian or a Bantu wants to be, or to be
thought of, as an Englishman under the skin. On the contrary,
with few exceptions, he has no idea or intention of any
such thing; and quite right too.
The matter unfortunately does not end there. By talking
about the consequences of two million New Commonwealth immigrants
in England in terms of a single individual and thus ignoring
all the facts and circumstances of the real situation, His
Grace and those who speak as he does use the language most
calculated to stir people to frenzy. To tell the indigenous
inhabitants of Brixton or Southall or Leicester or Bradford
or Birmingham or Wolverhampton, to tell the pensioners ending
their days in streets of nightly terror unrecognizable as
their former neighborhoods, to tell the people of towns
and cities where whole districts have been transformed into
enclaves of foreign lands, that the man with a colored
face could be an enrichment to my life and that of my neighbors
is to drive them beyond the limits of endurance. It is not
so much that it is obvious twaddle. It is that it makes
cruel mockery of the experience and fears of hundreds of
thousands, if not millions, of ordinary, decent men and
women.
I repeat, I am sure that His Grace is as innocent of intending
to cause evil as the attorney general believes a court would
find myself to be; and I trust that, if the Archbishop should
unfortunately use the same or similar language again after
section 70 of the new Act is in force, the attorney general
will refrain from authorizing prosecution. Nevertheless,
the consequences of the Archbishops words, whether
the reason for them be actual ignorance of the facts or
belief that good can come of ignoring the facts, is that
people say to themselves: If the Primate of all England
understands no more than that about what has happened, is
happening and is going to happen in our cities, then clearly
we must look to leaders of a different sort.
The prevalent determination, of which the Archbishops
is a typical though eminent example, not to see or to admit
that violence on a disastrous scale is virtually certain
if the alien wedgesI use Lord Radcliffes
phrase againin the metropolis and other major English
cities and towns increase at the predictable rate, is due
I am sure to a grave misconception. It is supposed that
those who envisage such a prospect are accusing the immigrant
and immigrant-descended population of having the desire
and intention to bring this result about. One is thought
to be attacking them for harboring aggressive and violent
designs. Hence, very largely, the accusations of insult
and of stirring up hatred by pointing out the dangers of
the future and denying that those dangers can be averted
by measures designed to promote what are called good
race relations.
This, I repeat, is a radical misunderstanding, and it is
important that if possible it be removed. The truth is that
both the indigenous and the immigrant population will alike
be the victims, and the unintending victims, of forces created
by the circumstances which we have allowed and continue
to allow to develop and which we show no intention of ever
endeavoring to reverse.
It is impossible to begin to understand the way in which
these forces operate if the discussion is conducted, as
race relations always are discussed, in terms of moral imperatives
and the attitudes of individualslike and dislike,
good will and ill will. The behavior of men in the mass
and in society is not the sum total of the behavior of individualsany
more than inflation is the sum total of voluntary individual
increases of prices and wages.
A remarkable speech was made exactly a year ago by the
Labor Member for Norwood, John Fraser, in which he pointed
to what he called segregation, not legal or enforced
or even well-defined or precise, but segregation nevertheless
as a state of affairs which ought to send a shudder
down our spines, and he added that once it happens,
the process is well nigh irreversible. This is an
accurate description of the result of a steady and foreseeable
increase in a population, or populations, which are not
only seen and felt by the rest among whom they live to be
distinct and different but which, more importantly, are
themselves strongly predisposed to maintain and reinforce
that distinctness and difference.
Where I part company with Mr. Fraser is that he identified
what he called discrimination and deprivation
as the causes of segregation and regarded measures for reducing
and preventing discrimination and deprivation as calculated
to prevent segregation. The opposite is the case. It is
segregation that is the cause, and not the result, of discrimination
and deprivation; and measures aimed at reducing discrimination
and deprivation only increase segregation and enhance its
destructive potential.
In understanding this matter, the beginning of wisdom is
to grasp the law that in human societies power is never
left unclaimed and unused. It does not blow about, like
wastepaper on the streets, ownerless and inert. Mens
nature is not only, as Thucydides long ago asserted, to
exert power where they have it; men cannot help themselves
from exerting power where they have it, whether they want
to or not. The colored population of over two million in
England, a population which grows at the rate of nearly
100,000 a year while the remainder diminishes, a population
which is predominantly concentrated in the central areas
of the metropolis and other key urban and industrial centers
of England, does possesssimply by reason of segregation
and differentiationa power which would not accrue
to a mere random sample of two million persons similarly
located but not perceived or perceiving themselves as distinct
from the rest.
The potential power derived from this basic and, as it
were, physical cause is enhanced by the special circumstances
attending upon the New Commonwealth immigration which brought
it about. The publicly expressed attitude of the indigenous
population towards the colored population is one of apology
and self-accusation, denoted, amongst other things, by the
passing of ever severer laws for the protection of the minority
in circumstances where protection is not intended to be
available, and would in practice not be available, for members
of the majority who were similarly disadvantaged. The plain
effect is, and is understood by both minority and majority
to be, to endow the members of a distinctive and growing
minority with privilege, and to communicate to them the
dangerous conviction that the guilty and apologetic behavior
of the majority derives at least in part from fear. This
effect is enormously heightened when seen as part of the
contemporary worldwide and systematic movement to use color
to exploit and foment internal and international conflicts.
The result is that the indigenous population perceives its
own predicament as that of part of a world minority, which
is under verbal and sometimes physical pressure and attack.
Once the position of strength and privilege, natural and
psychological, which I have described is created, it is
bound to be used as a means to extend that strength and
privilege further. In this the situation of a minority which
possesses full political rights but yet regards itself and
its interests as distinct from, and possibly antagonistic
to, those of the host society, is especially favorable.
In the narrowly balanced politics of Britain, political
support can be auctioned to the highest bidder in return
for further privileges and concessions; for the requisite
precedents and grievances will always be available and in
the contextuniquelyprivilege enjoys vocal public
approval. I think I cannot be the only one to have noticed
that if four percent of the population had four percent
representation in the House of Commons it would already
contain twenty-five colored MPs, or to have wondered how
soon measures will be proposed to ensure that the present
disproportion is rectified. It is the business of the leaders
of distinct and separate populations to see that the power
which they possess is used to benefit those for whom they
speak. Leaders who fail to do so, or to do so fast enough,
find themselves outflanked and superseded by those who are
less squeamish. The Greshams law of extremism, that
the more extreme drives out the less extreme, is one of
the basic rules of political mechanics which operate in
this field: it is a corollary of the general principle that
no political power exists without being used.
Both the general law and its Greshams corollary point,
in contemporary circumstances, towards the resort to physical
violence, in the form of firearms or high explosive, as
being so probable as to be predicted with virtual certainty.
The experience of the last decade and more, all round the
world, shows that acts of violence, however apparently irrational
or inappropriate their targets, precipitate a frenzied search
on the part of the society attacked to discover and remedy
more and more grievances, real or imaginary, among those
from whom the violence is supposed to emanate or on whose
behalf it is supposed to be exercised. Those commanding
a position of political leverage would then be superhuman
if they could refrain from pointing to the acts of terrorism
and, while condemning them, declaring that further and faster
concessions and grants of privilege are the only means to
avoid such acts being repeated on a rising scale. We know
that those who thus argue will always find a ready hearing.
This is what produces the gearing effect of terrorism in
the contemporary world, yielding huge results from acts
of violence perpetrated by minimal numbers. It is not, I
repeat again and again, that the mass of a particular population
are violently or criminally disposed. Far from it; that
population soon becomes itself the prisoner of the violence
and machinations of an infinitely small minority among it.
Just a few thugs, a few shots, a few bombs at the right
place and timeand that is enough for disproportionate
consequences to follow.
Differentiation by color, where it exists, is an enormously
important factor in this context, effective in a number
of ways which all operate in the same direction. It is,
first, a permanent and involuntary uniform, which performs
all and more of the functions of a uniform in warfare, distinguishing
one side from the other, friend from foe, and making it
possible to see at a glance what is happening, where to
render assistance, and where to attack. This is why those
who have sought to organize the domination of a majority
by a minority have commonly, where possible, used insignia
and means of mutual recognition to increase the potency
of small numbers.
Moreover, the uniform of color, because it is involuntary
and irremovable, becomes an irresistible force for dominating
and disciplining those who wear it. They are literally marked
people, expected to rally to whatever is designated as their
cause and treated as manifest traitors if they fail to do
so. When one has witnessed how the invisible uniform of
religion enables the IRA to exert over the mass of peaceful
and law-abiding Roman Catholic citizens in Northern Ireland
a terror and compulsion far severer than that under which
their Protestant fellow citizens live, one can form some
idea of the consolidating potential of the visible uniform
of color. Finally, color polarizes, and reinforces differentiation
and segregation, because the individual, however much, as
an individual, he may become, and wish to become, assimilated
to the host population, is firmly identified, and thus eventually
obliged to identify himself, with the minority to which
he belongs. Color is a recruiting sergeant, and a recruiting
sergeant for officer material.
I have been describing the forces which, with a kind of
mechanical inevitability, invest the New Commonwealth immigrant
and immigrant-descended population in England with the sort
of power which cannot in the nature of things remain unexerted;
but one crucial factor has not yet been mentioned. The consequences
of New Commonwealth immigration are not static, they are
dynamic. The resultant population is not a fixed element
of the total, bearing a proportion to the whole not destined
to increase, and representing therefore a phenomenon which,
despite all the attendant difficulties of highly differentiated
and segregated enclaves, might eventually, by a kind of
collective force of habit, become a stable feature of the
England of the future. This is probably the mistaken picture
still in the minds of many people, including a correspondent
who in a letter to me after my last speech on this subject
wrote, After all, whats so terrible about a
few race riots?
What we do know is that upon any conceivable assumptions,
short of wholly new policy initiatives, the New Commonwealth
immigrant and immigrant-descended population will continue
to grow not only absolutely but proportionately until far
into the next century. This is implicit in the age-structure
of that population, apart from any other causes whatsoever.
Thus of the two differentiated populations, one will be
advancing and the other retracting, both numerically and
territorially. The significance of this fact is again enhanced
by the pattern of distribution The picture is not that of
a province or corner of the country occupied by a distinct
and growing population, though that would be perilous enough.
It is of the occupation, more and more intense, of key areasand,
it may be added, of key functionsin the heartlands
of the Kingdom. The process is one of which both populations
will continuously and increasingly be conscious. It is this
fact which, added to all the rest, points to the prospect
of eventual conflict upon a scale which cannot adequately
be described by any lesser term than civil war.
Thus by our own past actions of commission and omission
we have set in motion the processes which will lead to a
result equally catastrophic for both the host and the immigrant-descended
populations and equally unwilled by both, who will be the
prisoners and the victims of their situation. I defy anyone
to suggest that to trace those processes and to envisage
this prospect is to insult either population,
unless it be an insult to assume that they will act and
react as human societies observably do and always have.
But still the question may be asked: So be; but why
do you not, foreseeing this, keep silence? What is gained
by speech? To this I answer that even if I thought
the outcome could by no contrivance be avoided, it would
still be ones instinct and ones duty to speak:
we cry out to warn our fellow beings of impending catastrophe,
whether or not we calculate that they can still escape.
The instinct is a healthy instinct, and the duty is a rational
duty; for who knows what efforts men are capable of when
necessity stares them in the face? Nor have I ever doubted
that, once the nature and scale of the consequences were
recognized, the common interest of all in averting them
could make possible measures hitherto dismissed as impracticable
or unthinkable. They would indeed be heroic measures, measures
which radically altered the prospective pattern of our future
population; but they would be measures based on and operating
with human nature as it is, not measures which purport to
manipulate and alter human nature by laws, bureaucracy,
and propaganda. Such as they are, they will never come,
or they will come too late, if a prohibition is placed upon
rational and temperate free speech and a premium upon self-deception
and willful blindness.
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In a speech This sceptred Isle...This
Happy Breed to W.I.S.E. at the National Liberal Club
in 1981 Sir Ronald Bell Q.C.,m.p, spoke of how we are again
suffering under the "Presentment of Englishry.
The very word discrimination itself has been grossly abused.
It used to be a good word: a discriminating person was someone
to be admired.
People have been brainwashed into thinking that it is a
bad word except when native inhabitants are being handicapped.
That is now called positive discrimination, and is deemed
a good thing.
We are well
on the road back to presentment of Englishry,
when in the days after the Norman Conquest that it was a
defence to show that the injured person was only an Englishman.
(Sir Ronald Bell, QC.MP.)
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Sir Ronald Bell QC MP,
speaking at the Caxton Hall, London, on Thursday 19th June
1980 at 6.30 pm.
Race chief warns of riot-torn cities ran last
nights headline. Mr. David Lane, chairman of the Commission
for Racial Equality, said I dont want to be
an alarmist, but
and then followed warnings
of an urgent problem and a difficult summer, with the risk
of Bristol-style riots, and two or three difficult years
ahead.
I dont want to be alarmist either but two or
three difficult years could be the understatement
of the year. It also occurs to me that, if I had said what
Mr. Lane had said, I should have been accused by the race
relations industry of spreading a feeling of insecurity
among the coloured population and even, perhaps, of provoking
disorder. I seem to remember that Mr. Enoch Powell has in
the past been accused of just those things.
The really interesting element in Mr. Lanes statement
is that he is expecting or fearing disturbances
similar to those in Bristol; that is riots by the coloured
population, not by the native white population, and that
he thinks the risk will remain acute until we remedy the
underlying problems, of which the biggest (he believes)
is unemployment.
The Governments judgement, with which I agree, is
that severe inflation leads to unemployment and that the
cure is monetary discipline which, in its first phase, must
increase unemployment. Is Mr. Lane and the Commission for
Racial Equality suggesting that the main economic policy
of the nation should be put in reverse because the coloured
element in the community will riot if the Government perseveres
in it? I ask That question because Mr. Lane and his colleagues
cannot seriously believe that switching off resources
to the coloured areas could have any real significance,
economic or political, unless it were done on so massive
a scale that it provoked riots by the British.
I have never been one who relied heavily on the argument
of the resentful outburst by the native white people. Such
an outburst would be entirely understandable, because they
have been scandalously betrayed by their politicians. But
I have always regarded it as improbable. The danger that
I have seen is a lowering of national morale, a loss of
clear identity, a feeling of bitter helplessness, of despair,
then apathy.
The British have hated what was happening to them; they
never acquiesced in it, but they were deceived, misled and
let down time after time and forced to endure a rate of
change in their towns that is destructive of any continuity
of national spirit and identity. Those powerful people,
the communicators were their enemies: and the
result of it all is around us.
Insult was added to injury by the race relations legislation.
Now we learn that alien injected element has not been sufficiently
pampered and protected by politicians and media: that unless
there is a further big dose of positive discrimination,
which apparently, unlike ordinary discrimination, is lawful
and a good thing, there is the risk of major outbursts of
disorder. Who knows where the trouble will begin?
says Mr. Lane.
Is it not reasonable to ask why someone of tropical origin,
who does not like our arrangements here, should not return
to his own country, rather than cause riots in ours? Someone,
somewhere, I am sure, will object: But what if he
was born here? What is his own country? And that brings
us straight to the expected new British Nationality Act,
and the definitely promised Nationality White Paper.
There are some, indeed many, who have been demanding a
new Nationality Act for years, believing that in it at last
they will find the longed-for cure for Commonwealth immigration.
I bring them no message of comfort. The White Paper proposals
when they come, the Bills proposals, if they come,
will cause no reduction in immigration and lead to no increase
in repatriation. They will remove a right to come here from
nobody, except possibly some people in the old Dominions:
they will enlarge or confirm a wide area of entitlement
to settle in Britain. Ultimately, in a distant future they
might just reduce immigration, but in the short and medium
term they are likely to increase it.
Of course, it need not be so. It would be quite easy to
devise a bill which would stop all new settlement, from
the tropical areas, in Britain, and lead to a significant
outward movement. But all the familiar pressure groups will
combine to see that the Nationality Bill is just one more
step along their road. It is quite certain that it wont
even deal with the special citizen privileges of the non-citizen
Irish. Mr. Whitelaw has said so already.
And, in particular, it will be founded firmly on what lawyers
call the ius soli. The most important consideration
will be where you were born. So the child born to a foreign
couple during a brief stay in England will have British
citizenship, and be free to come and go, whilst most Australians
and New Zealanders will not. But very many, who are presently
citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies, not born here
and with no personal connection with Britain, will also
have the right to settle here. Indeed, if the Liberal Party
has its way, all the millions of present citizens of the
United Kingdom and Colonies who live outside Britain will
be free to come. For there are degrees of suicidal lunacy
in this matter and, amid keen competition, the Liberal Party
has always held the top place.
Is it not time to introduce a bit of sense? Of course heredity
counts. It counts more than anything else. What sort of
person you are is determined by your parents, not by the
spot in which your mother happened to be when you were born.
In the modern world of swift, easy communication and constant
mobility the place where you happened to be born is of minimal
importance. Our objective must be to restore clear meaning
to being British. One third of all the births in Greater
London are to foreign mothers. Does that make sense? Who
can be proud of being British if that is all being British
means? And, if it doesnt make sense to be proud of
being British, what focus of pride and loyalty to you put
in its place? We are being destroyed as a nation by fools
rather than by knaves: but fools are more dangerous than
knaves and they have had a long run. We must not underestimate
the extent to which national demoralisation has already
progressed from mainly demographic causes. We face, not
the two or three difficult years envisaged by Mr. Lane,
but a generation of agonising problems swiftly and easily
created but only most painfully and slowly to be solved.
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